AggroChat #381 – Fun With World Bosses

Featuring: Ammosart, Ashgar, Belghast, Kodra, Tamrielo, and Thalen
Tonight we have a bit of an odd show to usher in sleep theft weekend.  First we talk about Bel’s descent into madness…  that is getting super engaged in Guild Wars 2.  He spent the last week chain running World Bosses and talks about how freaking fun that is.  From there we talk about some of the long grind systems and how there are multiple paths for different playstyles to reach the same ultimate goal.  From there we dust off a topic that has been sitting on the list for a long while, that was originally inspired by Warhammer 40,000 but applies to a lot of different games.  Largely we discuss how the most hardcore players represent the smallest portion of the community, but also are the ones that set the pace that everyone else is forced to live up to.  This covers a wide swath of topics from Magic the Gathering to MMO Chain Pulling to even the death of New World.  It is one wild ride  of a show.

Topics Discussed

  • Bel’s further descent into Guild Wars 2
    • The Joy of Chain Running World Bosses
    • The Good Long Grinds
  • Catering to the minority in games
    • How the most competitive players set the rules of the community
    • Warhammer 40,000
    • FFXIV and MMO Chain Pulling
    • Magic the Gathering
      • Netdecking
      • Missing Jank Magic
    • Destiny 2
      • Death of Skill Based Matchmaking
    • New World and how catering to a minority is killing game
    • Missing the innocence of being able to be bad
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Spending Money on Tyria

If you have been reading my blog lately, you will have shockingly realized that I am playing an excessive amount of Guild Wars 2 at the moment. I am having a freaking blast but I thought I would talk some about one of the elements that I think scares some folks away… the cash shop. Guild Wars 2 is financed through a combination of “buy the box” expansions and then a slew of “priced to own” cash shop doodads. I personally have zero problem spending money on a game and effectively if I am not paying a subscription for something, it becomes a heck of a lot easier to justify buying items from the cash shop, especially if they improve my overall quality of life. Given that I have been playing Guild Wars 2 for a decade now… I have accumulated quite a few baubles that improve game-play. I thought I would take a moment this morning to talk about the things that I personally find value in from the long list of things available.

Shared Inventory Storage

One of the cool features of Guild Wars 2 is the ability to acquire inventory slots that show up on every single character on your account. These are super useful for storing gadgets that I will get into later as well as any consumables you might like to have access to like teleport to friend or the ever present birthday boosters. I’ve highlighted my shared storage row at the top of my bag in green. Purchased at the cheapest rate you can get 5 slots for 2800 gems which works out to 560 per slot. However like EVERYTHING I am going to talk about today… wait for it to go on sale. The Black Lion store has a somewhat predictable cadence of sales and as such it is certain that ANYTHING you are wanting will eventually go on promotion if you wait it out. Each time you purchase an expansion you get one of these for free.

Permanent Lounge Passes

In Guild Wars 2 there are special “VIP” areas of the game that you gain access to through holding a pass. There are time limited versions of these that are pretty easy to get, but the more interesting variant grants you permanent access to teleport to this location from anywhere in the world. You can check out this run down from the wiki that lists the features that each of them have, but essentially it grants you easy access to banks, vendors, crafting machines, and the market boards. Unfortunately they are not all created equal because Armistice Bastion and Mistlock Sanctuary give you access to a wide variety of teleports as well as the ability to pop right back to the spot that you clicked your pass from. You can get “Lily of the Elon” from purchasing the Deluxe edition of Path of Fire, but I would largely hold out and pick up Mistlock Sanctuary as it seems to be the most compact and useful version. When one of these is available they are 1000 gems, but unfortunately the permanent version of the pass shows up fairly rarely.

Unbreakable Tools

I have to admit two of the most annoying things for me personally when it comes to Guild Wars 2 is the fact that Salvage Kits and Harvesting Tools are a depleting resource. These next two picks fix that, but may not be as big of a deal for you. Unfortunately with the various permanent tool options, they are not account wide which means if you want to actively be using them on all of your characters you have to shell out for MANY sets. They come in really cool cosmetic versions and also these boring plain ones that are a bit cheaper. Again with everything else… wait for them to go on sale.

Copper-Fed Salvage-o-Matic

You are going to spend an exceptional amount of time salvaging gear for materials. This is just part of the core loop of the game and as a result you are going to go through prodigious amounts of salvage kits. For anything green quality or lower I end up using the lowest kit possible, and with this machine you essentially pay 3 copper to destroy an item, which is a .52 copper savings per item salvaged over just buying kits. The real reason why this is worth it however is that it can be used an unlimited number of times and you never have to worry about restocking ever again. I also have a copy of the Runecrafter’s Salvage-o-Matic because it has a 100% chance of recovering upgrades.

World Boss Portal Device

This is new to my repertoire of baubles, but this item when clicked on gives you a list of every event that is just about to happen and allows you to teleport to the nearest waypoint, even if you have not unlocked it yet. This has been the source of so much joy over the last few nights because it makes running world events super seamless and simple. Money very well spent, and now it lives permanently in my shared storage so all of my characters to access these events. Those are the items that I have personally found extremely useful. Are there any items that I missed that you personally recommend from the cash shop? Again like I said several times, don’t buy anything until it is on sale. If you are curious what is available at any time, the Wiki seems to keep an updated list. The post Spending Money on Tyria appeared first on Tales of the Aggronaut.

Understanding the Bounce

Good Morning Friends. Sometimes I get something stuck in my head and I have trouble letting go of it. For a decade now, Guild Wars 2 has been this puzzle that I have been trying to crack. I’ve fought and spent countless hours trying to sort out why many of my friends enjoyed it, but that I struggled to latch onto it. Now that I have arrived at the moment where it is really clicking for me… I’ve been puzzling over why exactly I bounced so hard for so many years. Last night I think I landed on the very specific reasons, and this morning I am going to take you on a journey as I dive into them. Ultimately like so many problems in my life it has come down to assumptions and expectations.
In 1996 when I got into the beta for a game from then upstart developer Blizzard called Diablo, it was essentially everything I had wanted in a video game up until that point. Suffice to say that I love Diablo with all of my heart and even though the original is rather kludgy by today’s comparisons, it will always right or wrong be up on a bit of a pedestal. There are times when it is important to understand the lineage of a game and I have talked about in the past how Final Fantasy XIV behaves oddly not because it draws its roots to World of Warcraft, but that it ultimately draws its roots to Everquest and that community by way of Final Fantasy XI which was directly inspired by EQ. As we talk about Guild Wars, we have to start with Diablo and ultimately the games that spun out of Diablo like Lineage and Dungeon Siege.
So while Guild Wars and World of Warcraft were technically contemporaries, there was never a time when I actively compared the two games or even treated them like they were in the same genre. Guild Wars very clearly drew its provenance from Diablo and Lineage by reference whereas World of Warcraft was based out of building a better Everquest. As a result the sort of gameplay that Guild Wars had felt like a fresh take on the dungeon crawler genre, or more so expanded upon it by adding much better story and new kinds of networked gameplay. I did not expect anything more from it than a game that let me kill monsters for stacks of loot, and I found the card based skill system to be interesting. I have always been a huge fan of Magic the Gathering and once I made that mental connection to deck building I was set.
Where we run into problems however is with the release of Guild Wars 2. During the run up to the game there was a lot of very lofty bullshit bandied about by the team. Rather intentional or not, they painted a target on their back of having to bear the burden of being the “WoW Killer”. So as a result I stopped comparing Guild Wars 2 to that provenance of Guild Wars dating back to Diablo… and instead started comparing it directly to World of Warcraft. The comparison did not really hold up because as we all know Guild Wars 2 is doing something very different, and as a result was missing a lot of the underpinnings of that traditional World of Warcraft experience. I gave it a shot but it just did not have the same magic I was hoping it would rekindle from those early days of Warcraft. Like I said I am not sure if this really was intention on the part of the developers or if something that some marketing agency decided needed to happen but in truth they should have spent more time distancing themselves from the MMORPG pack than they did.
The problem for me however is that the damage was already done. Guild Wars 1 mentally was ArenaNet showing me what they could do with the Diablo formula, and as a result I had equated the second game to them showing me their take on World of Warcraft. The word “Warrior” means something very specific to me as a result of that connection. Tales of the Aggronaut started its life as a World of Warcraft Warrior Tanking blog, so I had a very specific style of gameplay that I wanted to experience when I rolled this new character type in Guild Wars 2. The disconnect being that Warrior is no more tanky than any other class in the game because there is no traditional trinity of roles, nor should there really be. I kept trying to force Guild Wars 2 into the mold of my experiences from other MMORPGs when I never thought to take a step back and trace the path back to Diablo.
In Diablo you have the Barbarian and it is no more tanky than any other class in that game. It is instead a class defined by melee combat and short duration largely shout based buffs for your team. Effectively you could swap the word Barbarian for Warrior and have a better understanding of what the Guild Wars 2 class is trying to be. However for me the well was poisoned and Guild Was 2 was a game that was “doing warriors wrong!” even though I had been perfectly happy to play the “Warrior as Barbarian” in the original Guild Wars. It is shocking just how much difference the right frame of mind makes when approaching something, and how our assumptions can be the destroyer of possibilities.
One of the problems that I have is that I get hung up on fetishizing specific weapons. For example in Destiny 2, there is never going to be a point where I am not either actively wielding or have in my inventory an Auto Rifle. That is the weapon for me and I will go through some weird contorted lengths to make sure I am using one. Similarly with MMORPGs, I want to be using a sword and a shield… and occasionally an Axe or a Mace will do but the important part is the shield. That is a deep part of what I consider to be a “tank” and why I play them. While I enjoy the non-traditional tanks like the Warrior in FFXIV or the Demon Hunter in World of Warcraft, I will never feel quite as at home as when I have a large chunk of metal strapped to my left arm. This is what is largely referred to as a “class fantasy” and it is one that is completely unsupported by Guild Wars 2.
What changed is that I had a conversation with my friend Tam about what I actually want from a class and he managed to narrow in on one piece of the narrative that I had not caught myself. I want a character with extremely high suitability. So while it is very much not my “class fantasy” he said I should check out the Necromancer and I did precisely that. There is something about playing a caster which is entirely out of my comfort range, and a pet class specifically… and caused me to completely re-frame the experience of playing Guild Wars 2. No longer was I playing a game that was pretending to be World of Warcraft but instead playing a game that very much drew its roots to the Diablo 2/3 Necromancer, another class that I love. Being forcibly pushed out of my comfort zone has allowed me to completely re-imagine the experience of playing Guild Wars 2 for the better.
For years I have believed that Guild Wars 2 was an attempt to build the WoW Killer, because that is what the marketing told me it was. What the game is instead however is a direct successor to Guild Wars 1, taking a lot of the things that worked well there and expanding upon them and building them into a big open world event based game. It is a game where your class doesn’t really matter all that much, but what does matter is the way you build it and the gear that you equip… which is entirely translatable to the experience I have with builds and Diablo 3. With this frame of context everything about the Guild Wars 2 experience suddenly feels better. I’ve been able to chuck it mentally into the appropriate bin of equivalent experiences and now it is absolutely scratching that Diablo itch for me.
Last night I had a freaking blast running around and doing the big World Boss events. At the suggestion of Bhagpuss in my comments yesterday, I spent the 400 gems on the doodad that auto teleports me to any available events. It is maybe some of the best money I have ever spent on a game like this, and the end result was three hours of mayhem and so much loot. Granted a large chunk of it was salvage fodder, but I did manage to pull a really cool exotic staff and more importantly a ton of gossamer and a handful of high end leather as well as a few more crafting patterns. What Guild Wars 2 does best is the drop in nature of the big zone events, and now that I have tackled the mental obstacles that I had placed in front of my enjoyment… it is a glorious experience. The post Understanding the Bounce appeared first on Tales of the Aggronaut.

The Hunt for Gossamer

Good Morning Friends. I had planned on blogging yesterday but reality got in the way of everything else in my life. Essentially long story short about 6 pm on Monday night our internet went to complete shit. I am not sure what happened exactly, but suffice to say that we could not maintain any sort of a stable connection. I logged into the web page for my internet provider and they indicated that there was an issue in my area and gave a resolution time of after midnight. At this point, I ended up tethering to my phone for the rest of the evening and going about my business of playing Guild Wars 2 and trying not to think about it.
When I got up yesterday morning… the internet was still shit. This began a panic-induced sequence of events that lead me to skip my coffee, skip blogging, and skip breakfast. After several hours on the phone with the ISP, we ended up seemingly isolating the problem to my router. Truth be told for whatever reason we only seem to get a few years out of a router before it flakes out. It might be the sheer number of devices that we have connected to it, the volume of usage… or the fact that my office gets hot as hell during the winter months. Whatever the case “routers going out” is a problem that we have dealt with throughout the years and when I looked the purchase date of my current one up it has been in service for a little over four years. I guess it was due and I have a replacement upgrade on the way, but for the time being, I am limping along hoping that really was the case.
What have I been doing? Playing an excessive amount of Guild Wars 2… and no one is more shocked by this than I am. GW2 and I have had a rough past, and while I know I have recounted the tale many times… I was an alpha tester for the game and in fact, recently I found the copy I kept of the NDA paperwork that I had to get notarized and snail mail to ArenaNet. Guild Wars 2 is also the only game I have ever resigned from testing and in part, there were a few of us as there was a massive thread called something to the akin of “It’s Just Not for Me” on the tester exclusive forums. But more recently after starting the Necromancer… something has clicked and I am not sure exactly what. It might be that my play style has changed and it might be that going into playing the Necromancer caused me to go in without any built-up expectations for what the class should feel like. Whatever the case I find myself reveling in all of the little details about how this game functions and how it fits my current “solo but also want to do drop-in group activities” playstyle.
In that vein, I need to sort out how best to follow along the meta train. Guild Wars 2 has this lovely rotating sequence of World Boss events and zone-wide Meta events so that a player can theoretically hop in and ride the wave of encounters until they are ready to stop for the night. Each one of the rewards a bunch of interesting things before zooming on to the next one. The only negative for me right now is that I do not have a lot of world progress, so moving around is probably going to be a bit more challenging than it would normally be for folks following this train. I spent some time last night working on that since my internet connection was less than stable. I need to look up a guide to the closest part to all of the world bosses and then I could at least make sure I had unlocked that specifically. Ultimately I am in a place where I need a lot of high-end crafting materials and riding the meta seems like a reasonable way to get some of those.
Ultimately I made a decision the other night that if I was going to need to spend a lot of gold on gearing… that I might as well just spend that gold on leveling a trade profession. As a result, then I pushed Tailoring to 400 in a single evening, and I even have the spiffy professional backpack to prove my efforts. Truth be told that backpack was an excellent gear upgrade because it was a customizable item. That is one cool thing about a lot of boss drops in Guild Wars 2 is that you can determine what stats you want on the item by right-clicking on it and choosing “Customize”. This allows you to kit out your character in the right items for the right slots without a ton of hassle, and it seems a lot of the zone metas like those in Heart of Thorns drop these customizable items. When I say “zone meta” what I mean by that is an hour or two long sequence of world events that ultimately culminate in a giant boss fight.
Another thing that I have done recently is to abandon the Braham outfit and venture out to create my own appearance. This is what I have landed on and I look like I have just taken the black and shipped up north to guard the wall. I don’t normally dig “light armor” classes and in truth, nothing about the Necromancer Reaper build FEELS like I am wearing tissue-thin armor. However, for cosmetic purposes, I am limited to only light appearances. I think I have landed on a gear style that looks good together and feels more like I am wearing a set of heavy leather than cloth. I think it fits my Norn very well and seems like something a man of the north would wear. Now here is hoping that I can put my internet woes behind me in short order. The post The Hunt for Gossamer appeared first on Tales of the Aggronaut.